{"id":2191,"date":"2026-09-29T05:48:45","date_gmt":"2026-09-29T09:48:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/slecotech.com\/?p=2191"},"modified":"2026-09-29T06:06:01","modified_gmt":"2026-09-29T10:06:01","slug":"purge-lumps-shredder-how-big-a-lump-one-machine-can-take-without-pre-cutting","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/slecotech.com\/es\/purge-lumps-shredder-how-big-a-lump-one-machine-can-take-without-pre-cutting\/","title":{"rendered":"Trituradora de grumos: \u00bfQu\u00e9 tama\u00f1o de grumo puede procesar una m\u00e1quina sin necesidad de precortar?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"text-align:left!important;direction:ltr!important;float:none!important;width:100%!important;max-width:100%!important;margin-left:0!important;margin-right:0!important;\">\n<p>Somebody sends me a photo most weeks. A purge lump sitting on a concrete floor, a boot or a drink can next to it for scale, and one line underneath: &#8220;can we feed this as-is?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s the right question to ask, and it&#8217;s the one nobody answers clearly. Brochures print throughput numbers and motor power. They rarely print what actually decides whether your Monday morning goes smoothly \u2014 how big a single block the machine will bite.<\/p>\n<p>So let&#8217;s answer it properly. Here is where the real limit sits, what the feed openings actually measure on our machines, and the exact point where you have to reach for a saw first.<\/p>\n<p>Most of the time you don&#8217;t. One machine takes your lumps whole. But the cases where it doesn&#8217;t are worth knowing before you sign anything, because &#8220;we&#8217;ll just cut the big ones by hand&#8221; is a decision that costs you a wage every single week.<\/p>\n<h2>&#8220;Purge Lump&#8221; covers three different things<\/h2>\n<p>First, the word is doing too much work. When a buyer says purge lumps, they usually mean one of three, and they behave differently in a shredder.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Color-change and grade-change purge.<\/strong> The classic one. You push the next material through until the color runs clean, and what comes out is a rope or a slab that cools into a hard irregular block. Usually PP, PE, ABS, sometimes PC. Fist-sized up to a shoe box. Call it 2 to 8 kg. Soft when it&#8217;s still warm, genuinely hard once it&#8217;s cooled overnight.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Die and head purge.<\/strong> The material you drag out of the die head or screen pack during a teardown. Denser, often darker, sometimes partly degraded. 5 to 15 kg, and much harder than a color-change block. This is the stuff that tells you whether your rotor and cutters were specified honestly.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Startup and shutdown blocks.<\/strong> The big ones. A full purge-out at the end of a run, sometimes dumped into a drum or a mold box and left to set. 300 to 400 mm on the long side is common. Over 20 kg isn&#8217;t unusual. Occasionally there&#8217;s a bolt, a heater band fragment, or a piece of tooling in there.<\/p>\n<p>I ask which one you have because the answer changes the machine. A shop feeding fist-sized color-change blocks all day is an easy spec. A shop with 25 kg die-head blocks every Friday is a different conversation.<\/p>\n<h2>The limit isn&#8217;t the hopper. It&#8217;s the bite.<\/h2>\n<p>This is where people get it wrong. They look at the feed opening, see a number, and assume anything smaller than that number goes in fine.<\/p>\n<p>The hopper only decides whether the block <strong>fits<\/strong>. What decides whether it <strong>breaks<\/strong> is whether the rotor can get purchase on it.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the mechanism on a single shaft shredder. A hydraulic ram pushes the block against a slow, high-torque rotor. The rotor knives hook the surface and drag it across a fixed counter knife, tearing a layer off with each pass. Pieces leave when they&#8217;re small enough to fall through the screen.<\/p>\n<p>So two things matter:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Can the knives hook it?<\/strong> A hard, smooth, rounded block has very little for a knife to grab. If the cutter projection is small and the surface is glassy, the block skates. Bigger rotor knives with more projection bite better.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Can the ram hold it there?<\/strong> The block has to stay pressed into the rotor while it&#8217;s being worked. If it&#8217;s heavier than the ram can control, it bounces and rides up instead of being cut.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>That&#8217;s the real failure mode. Not &#8220;it didn&#8217;t fit.&#8221; It fits, and then it sits there spinning, getting hot, and polishing itself round.<\/p>\n<p>A granulator fails differently and more expensively. It runs fast and cuts by impact, so a dense block either hammers the knives, stalls the rotor, or trips the motor. I&#8217;ve seen a 12 kg block crack a granulator screen and take out three rotor knives in about four seconds. That machine was never meant to see it.<\/p>\n<h2>What the feed openings actually measure<\/h2>\n<p>Enough theory. Here are the numbers off our own machines.<\/p>\n<p>En <a href=\"https:\/\/slecotech.com\/es\/product\/single-shaft-shredder\/\">Single Shaft Shredder S Series<\/a> is sized by rotor width, and the feed opening follows it:<\/p>\n<table>\n<thead>\n<tr>\n<th>Modelo<\/th>\n<th>Rotor width<\/th>\n<th>Practical max lump (long side)<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>S600<\/td>\n<td>600 mm<\/td>\n<td>~500 mm<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>S800<\/td>\n<td>820 mm<\/td>\n<td>~700 mm<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>S1000<\/td>\n<td>1030 mm<\/td>\n<td>~900 mm<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>S1200<\/td>\n<td>1230 mm<\/td>\n<td>~1100 mm<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>S1400<\/td>\n<td>1450 mm<\/td>\n<td>~1300 mm<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>S1600<\/td>\n<td>1650 mm<\/td>\n<td>~1500 mm<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>S1800<\/td>\n<td>1850 mm<\/td>\n<td>~1700 mm<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>En <a href=\"https:\/\/slecotech.com\/es\/product\/sc-series-single-shaft-shredder\/\">SC Series<\/a> is the shredder-and-crusher unit, and there the hopper is a stated dimension:<\/p>\n<table>\n<thead>\n<tr>\n<th>Modelo<\/th>\n<th>Hopper size<\/th>\n<th>Shredder screen<\/th>\n<th>Crusher screen<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>SC600<\/td>\n<td>800 \u00d7 500 mm<\/td>\n<td>\u03a650 mm<\/td>\n<td>\u03a610 mm<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>SC800<\/td>\n<td>850 \u00d7 630 mm<\/td>\n<td>\u03a650 mm<\/td>\n<td>\u03a610 mm<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Read that hopper number carefully. On the SC800, the short side is 630 mm. So a block with its <strong>longest<\/strong> edge under 630 mm drops straight in. On the SC600, that number is 500 mm.<\/p>\n<p>Put your actual lumps against that:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Fist-sized color-change block, 150 mm \u2014 nowhere near the limit. Any machine in the range.<\/li>\n<li>Shoe box, roughly 300 \u00d7 200 \u00d7 150 mm \u2014 straight in, no drama.<\/li>\n<li>Basketball-sized, ~240 mm across \u2014 straight in.<\/li>\n<li>Die-head block, 400 \u00d7 300 \u00d7 200 mm \u2014 fits the SC800 and anything from the S800 up. On an SC600 you&#8217;d be turning it to find the right angle.<\/li>\n<li>A 450 mm startup block \u2014 SC800 fine, S600 no.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Most shops find their worst block lands comfortably inside the SC800 or S800. That&#8217;s why the honest answer to &#8220;can we feed it whole&#8221; is usually yes.<\/p>\n<h2>When you do have to pre-cut<\/h2>\n<p>Three signals. Any one of them and you&#8217;re cutting first.<\/p>\n<p><strong>1. The longest edge beats the short side of the hopper.<\/strong> 630 mm on the SC800, 500 mm on the SC600, roughly rotor width minus 100 mm on the S Series. Nothing clever about it \u2014 if it won&#8217;t lie in there, it won&#8217;t lie in there.<\/p>\n<p><strong>2. The block is heavier than the ram wants to control.<\/strong> My working rule: past about 30 to 40 kg for a single piece, stop and split it. The ram can shove it, but it can&#8217;t keep a block that heavy planted on the rotor, and you&#8217;ll get bouncing instead of cutting. Two halves at 20 kg each run better than one at 40.<\/p>\n<p><strong>3. It isn&#8217;t a size problem, it&#8217;s a hardness problem.<\/strong> Glass-filled purge is the usual offender. 30% glass-filled PA or PP shreds fine, but it eats cutters, and it does it quietly \u2014 you won&#8217;t notice until your blade life drops by half. Metal is different again: a bolt or a heater band fragment isn&#8217;t a cutting job, it&#8217;s a downtime job. Pick those out by hand.<\/p>\n<p>On glass-filled material, the fix isn&#8217;t pre-cutting, it&#8217;s budgeting. Factor shorter blade intervals into your cost per ton from the start. If you want the numbers on what wear actually costs, <a href=\"https:\/\/slecotech.com\/es\/plastic-shredder-blades-when-to-rotate-when-to-replace-and-why-yours-wear-out-too-fast\/\">the blade article<\/a> goes through it.<\/p>\n<h2>What pre-cutting actually costs you<\/h2>\n<p>This is the part people skip. &#8220;We&#8217;ll just cut the big ones&#8221; sounds like a one-line fix.<\/p>\n<p>Run it out. One worker with a bandsaw on a 20 kg block: three to five minutes each, including lifting it onto the table and stacking the halves. Call it 12 to 20 blocks an hour, so 240 to 400 kg\/h. On a decent day.<\/p>\n<p>An S600 on purge lumps runs 300 to 500 kg\/h, and it doesn&#8217;t take breaks or need a saw blade budget.<\/p>\n<p>So your cutting station is roughly keeping pace with the shredder \u2014 with a full wage attached. And you&#8217;re paying that wage forever, not once. Add the safety side: you&#8217;ve got someone handling a saw on hard, springy, awkward plastic that can kick. It&#8217;s not the worst job in a plant, but it isn&#8217;t one you&#8217;d design in on purpose.<\/p>\n<p>The honest framing: pre-cutting is a patch for buying a machine with a feed opening 100 mm too small. Spend that money on the bigger hopper instead and you&#8217;ve deleted a task rather than staffed it.<\/p>\n<h2>How to measure your own lumps<\/h2>\n<p>Do this before you talk to any supplier. It takes fifteen minutes and it removes most of the back-and-forth.<\/p>\n<p>Pull five pieces. Deliberately pick your worst ones \u2014 biggest, hardest, the ones everyone walks past.<\/p>\n<p>For each, write down:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><strong>Longest edge in mm.<\/strong> A tape measure, not a guess.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Weight in kg.<\/strong> Bathroom scale is fine.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Material.<\/strong> PP, PE, ABS, PC, glass-filled? If you genuinely don&#8217;t know, say so \u2014 it matters more than the size.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Hardness, roughly.<\/strong> Fingernail marks it? Hammer makes it crack? Hammer leaves a white mark and nothing else? That third one is hard material and I want to know about it.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Then one photo with a drink can or a tape measure in frame. The scale reference is what makes a photo useful \u2014 a lump on its own tells me nothing.<\/p>\n<p>Send those four numbers and the photo. We&#8217;ll tell you whether it feeds whole, and which model. Twenty-four to forty-eight hours, usually.<\/p>\n<h2>Picking the size<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Longest edge under 500 mm, one shift, under 2 tonnes a day<\/strong> \u2014 an S600 or SC600 covers it. This is most injection shops doing their own purge.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Longest edge 500 to 700 mm, or higher throughput<\/strong> \u2014 S800 or SC800.<\/li>\n<li><strong>You want regrind you can feed back without a second machine<\/strong> \u2014 the SC Series. It shreds through a \u03a650 screen and then granulates through \u03a610 in one footprint, so you get usable regrind out of one machine instead of sizing a shredder and then buying a <a href=\"https:\/\/slecotech.com\/es\/product\/plastic-crusher-c-series\/\">trituradora<\/a> to follow it.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Lumps over 700 mm<\/strong> \u2014 S1000 or up, and send us the photo first.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>One thing worth saying. If you size to your average lump, you&#8217;ll have a bad day eventually, because the big ones don&#8217;t arrive on a schedule. Size to the biggest block you&#8217;ve ever produced, then check what that model costs. Usually it&#8217;s one step up, and usually that step is cheaper than the alternative.<\/p>\n<p>The rest of the decision \u2014 how much you actually get out per hour, and what it costs you to run \u2014 is covered in <a href=\"https:\/\/slecotech.com\/es\/plastic-shredder-machine-capacity-what-one-machine-actually-puts-out-per-hour\/\">the capacity article<\/a> y <a href=\"https:\/\/slecotech.com\/es\/plastic-shredder-machine-cost-what-one-machine-actually-costs-you-after-you-buy-it\/\">the running cost piece<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h2>Preguntas frecuentes<\/h2>\n<p><strong>Can a shredder take purge lumps whole?<\/strong><br \/>\nUsually yes. Any block with its longest edge under the feed opening goes in as-is, and for most injection shops that&#8217;s everything they produce. The exceptions are oversized startup blocks and anything hiding metal.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Do I need to pre-cut plastic purge lumps?<\/strong><br \/>\nOnly if the longest edge beats the hopper, the block runs past roughly 30\u201340 kg, or there&#8217;s metal in it. Pre-cutting is otherwise paying someone to do work the machine should be doing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What size purge lump is too big for a shredder?<\/strong><br \/>\nOn our SC Series, longer than 630 mm on the SC800 or 500 mm on the SC600. On the S Series, roughly rotor width minus 100 mm. Bigger machines exist for bigger blocks \u2014 that&#8217;s what the S1000 and up are for.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Can a granulator handle purge lumps?<\/strong><br \/>\nNot the dense ones. A granulator cuts by impact at high speed, and a solid block hammers the knives or trips the motor. That&#8217;s exactly why the shredder goes first in the line.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Does a bigger feed opening cost more?<\/strong><br \/>\nYes, but less than you&#8217;d think, and less than a cutting station costs over a year. Get quotes for the two sizes side by side before deciding.<\/p>\n<h2>Tell us what you&#8217;re actually feeding<\/h2>\n<p>Send the four measurements and a photo with something for scale. Material, longest edge, weight, hardness. We&#8217;ll tell you straight whether it feeds whole and which model handles it \u2014 including when the answer is &#8220;you don&#8217;t need the bigger one.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/slecotech.com\/es\/contact-streamline-eco-tech\/\">Solicitar un presupuesto<\/a> and include the photo. Typical reply within 24\u201348 hours.<\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Somebody sends me a photo most weeks. A purge lump sitting on a concrete floor, a boot or a drink can next to it for scale, and one line underneath: &#8220;can we feed this as-is?&#8221; That&#8217;s the right question to ask, and it&#8217;s the one nobody answers clearly. Brochures print throughput numbers and motor power. 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